Re: Getting burned by hot ejected auto shell casings Even worse is being in a small high walled range booth where the brass is ricocheting all over the joint, back at you, on you. I live in the anti bushcraft/shooting capital of the United States, the SF Bay Area, I'm also an "eco terrorist" apparently because I drive a lifted Jeep. Even if collected and sent away for processing, the casing itself was often not looked at until after it had been tested for DNA and fingerprints, a delay that could mean waiting months. The spent bullet casings were then sent to a state database, so that police would have information to compare with casings later found at crime scenes. :mrgreen: Nothing to worry about. Pasted as rich text. They had a portion that covered up your neck; it sort of came up from the vest like a collar. Still, despite the newfound efficiency, the database has its shortcomings. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The owner of Georgia Arms, Larry Haynie, did not respond to calls and e-mails requesting comment. Buyers of handgun ammunition must be at least 21, but beyond that, the requirements are few. Teaching my daughters to do the same. Had too many bad encounters with game wardens on power trips. We just had the Sobranes fire also, it burned over a month and last I checked was well over 100k acres scorched. You should hear a satisfying sizzle - keep moderate pressure for 3 seconds. 2022 AmmoBrass, LLC. I figure I pick up enough litter to offset the occasional brass I miss but I try not to. I am using 4.4gr or Bulseye powder with 124gr. You can post now and register later. I had a CZ-83 in .380acp that was a blowback design but I don't remember what the casings looked like Many aircraft have closed gun systems. One guy in my platoon had a hot 5.56 cartridge ejected right into that collar, where it was held against his skin. Amid Mayor Michael R. Bloombergs attacks on the gun industry, New York City sold more than 28,000 pounds of the Police Departments spent shell casings to a And in Colorado Springs, the database helped the police solve an especially vexing case involving five separate shootings, including a drive-by at a city shopping mall. Since we believe that innovation as well as the best entertainment found anywhere is born during impromptu gatherings of like-minded people, we were all ears as he jumped up from his lawn chair and scoffed, interrupting those of us engaged in detailed talk of ultrasonic tumblers, benefits of dry and wet tumbling, and other titillating conversations such as ratios of pounds of-stainless steel pins to gallons of water when one tumbles to clean cartridges. But a tarnished casing wont change how the round shoots. One female cook from another ship who was rather well bosom-ed, kept getting cases down her ample cleavage. Personally, I'll gladly pick up other people's brass and shot shells to reload (when possible) or recycle. Gun related burns, like other gun related injuries, must be cauterized to promote rapid (often nearly instantaneous) healing. The people who do not are just lazy among other things. Only rifle caliber I could hunt on state land in CT was .22LR and since my rifle was bolt action every single case was picked up. For a primary source, With The Old Breed, a combat memoir by WW2 US Marine mortarman Eugene Sledge describes his unit being tasked with picking up the innumerable amount of spent brass after one of their battles (I think it was Okinawa, but I don't have a copy of the book on hand). After you place your order,you will receive an email with your order confirmation. Other than an interesting scar, no permanent damage. As we were sitting around with a group of competitive rifle shooters who also reload, at least one in our crew said we are thinking too hard about this step. It is a pretty good test of concentration! I know you can't find any now, I kept my bullseye as back up etc. I dont, you dont and your kids dont. Polo shirts help cover up the collar area a bit. The base service includes up to 21 brass shells. You must log in or register to reply here. (There were multiple reasons the WW2 battlefield was called Iron Bottom Sound.). It's one reason NOT to use them w/ lead bullets too. A 9mm measures .373 at the mouth of the case of Winchester brass, my normal crimp load was SAMMI specs of .378. But, I've noticed the lack of unburned powder and more consistency across the chrono. What I can't burn, I haul out and dispose of it. Yesterday my wife and I went to a new range with a couple of friends. I have forgotten to empty my layout blind i use for geese hunting and it probably has a couple hundred empty hulls in the bottom. It will clean right off in the tumbler. You will not receive any further correspondence from us until we create your shipping label, when you will automatically receive an email with tracking information. As much as they heat up, they also cool down quick, I have the reloader's habit of controlling casings as they are spent and have not had an issue yet (though I don't need to handle them the second they are ejected and I wouldn't bother with the .22). pressures. Susan C. Beachy and Kitty Bennett contributed research. [California tries a new tack on gun violence: ammunition control.]. John Feinblatt, the mayors chief policy adviser and the lead architect of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, said Mr. Bloomberg stood behind the sale and would allow similar sales in the future. These retain empty cartriges: this both reduces FOD risk, as well as weight shift. When a semiautomatic weapon is fired, a small hammer slams into a firing pin that strikes the back of the bullet cartridge, igniting gun powder that propels the bullet down the barrel. Yep, in the prone position, too. The previous four sales of shell casings dating to 2010, based on the data available on Tuesday, were to scrap metal companies in New York State. PHILADELPHIA In a series of brazen attacks a few summers back, a man known as the ruthless robber stole money from his victims and then opened fire on them, leaving little behind but wounded bodies and ejected shell casings. Announcement - Please read before ordering! Came across several shotgun shells that wasn't nice at all and makes bad image for hunters IMO. With only six out of every 10 homicides solved, according to the F.B.I., detectives need information quickly. Due to increases in the cost of doing business and the USPS's constant rate increases, we, unfortunately, must implement a shipping charge. We pick up our casings no matter what, whether its one or a hundred. Holding a cocked and loaded weapon while dealing with a freshly spent casing down the front of your shirt can be a test of self control to say the least! Check you load, you may not be getting enough of a seal, also certain powders are dirty others not so much. I usually have a few small trash bags with me when I access crown (public) lands, and I do clean the visable area I am using. Soak cases for an hour stirring around once or twice , remove and rinse. Every gun leaves a unique etch on the casings it expels, marks that are like a firearms fingerprint. by the time I put the gun down and took off the glasses, the casing was already just warm. Georgia Arms sells reloaded ammunition in Villa Rica, Ga., where no questions are asked and no identification is required. I am using 4.4gr or Bulseye powder with 124gr. Luckily I got away with no burns, but I did feel the hot casings bounce off of me as they came flying through the air. My armor funneled the brass from a 3 round burst from my M16 down the back of my neck back in 04. There has been one sale of shell casings since the Georgia sale, and it was to a scrap metal company. Lower powder charges don't expand the shell to fill the chamber so some soot blows back down the shell. My BE loads with cast 115's for my M&PA Pro have the exact same sooty appearance that you describe. Admittedly it's impossible to pick up all rim fire but I pick up as best as humanly possible and shotgun shells are no excuse, they're huge and colorful. The store sells bags of 50 bullets, at about $15 each; per Georgias gun laws, no questions are asked and no identification or registration is required. WebThere are various reasons and sources for casting imperfections, ranging from material failure to casting equipment or non-optimized procedure. Try a firmer crimp. yup, not much reloading going on in combat. Tarnished brass isnt necessarily dirty brass. The sale of shell casings to Georgia Arms is perfectly legal and not uncommon; other police departments sell their used casings. Put a little powder solvent on a rag and rub the case. They need to put a thin sleeve of rubber around the metal casings. No one wants lead in her oatmeal cookies. Eight of those dealers were from Georgia. I pick up ANY shell casings I find. highscore, I agre with what you are saying and your conclusion of "don't let it bother you". Anyone can read what you share. Got an eyebrow burn. Protect it from popping. The case is sized slightly small and the tension of the case around the bullet holds the bullet in place. I get pretty much the same with 4.1 of TG pushing a 124 DP FMJ RN. If no sizzle is heard, repeat as necessary. She had to re-shoot the whole course of fire LOL! Georgia Arms sells ammunition online; its 1,000-round boxes are called Canned Heat. In 2006, New York sued 28 gun dealers who had sold guns used in hundreds of crimes in the city. You will not receive any further correspondence from us until we create your shipping label, when you will automatically receive an email with tracking information. Mr. Bloombergs national coalition, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, ranked Georgia as having the 10th highest rate of crime-gun exports in 2009. They were heard again just hours after the shooting massacre in Aurora, Colo., in his calls for tightened gun control. You were probably shooting AR-15's, the m16 is a fully automatic rifle usually reserved for the military. Excluding Sales Tax. The rules are for the exceptions not the majority thus we all get punished in the end. Yes. They just contained a small explosion inside them. They will be anywhere from warm to hot depending on the round and rate of fire. If the camb I wouldn't even worry about it. Ouch! Get a five gallon bucket; fill it with the hottest water you can get, pour in some Dawn detergent (imagine beefy hands pretending to squirt an imaginary bottle of Dawn dish detergent in an imaginary bucket) then stir it up with a big slotted spoon. Sometimes is tough to find a casing that is ejected when hunting and focusing on game but I always try to. July 17, 2014 in 9mm/38 Caliber. JavaScript is disabled. I pick up any shotshell hulls I see when on conservation land, too. In Ohio especially around dove season if a game warden sees you they will ask to see your empty hulls and licenses and any bagged birds. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Not sealed case to bullet but case to chamber, And bullseye can be a dirty powder at times, Some of my BE loads are dirty and some clean, I switched to WST = much cleaner. Georgia Arms does not sell guns, only ammunition and supplies. Theres a big distinction between legal dealers and illegal dealers and criminals and law-abiding citizens. Price $22.00. My rounds end up with a coke bottle/wasp waist shape so I definitely know they are sealed properly. Most curent US aircraft with rotary cannons use double ended linkless feed systems. The rounds are plenty accurate and seem to function very well. We are making projectiles from once-fired casings and we have seen what can happen when people take shortcuts. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. She was shooting my friends Sig Mosquito, a .22 gun. At least let the sailors collect it as a "souvenir", In naval contexts, they get pushed over the side, likely to sink to the bottom. When you fire a bullet and the shell/casing shoots out, will it be warm/hot? Mike Stone [ https://www.quora.com/profile/Mike-Stone-202 ] is complet brass from the range is given to friends who still reload, since I don't anymore. said. He's gotta prove that the empties are mine first. I once had a hot case land between the bar of my glasses and my temple area (close to my eyebrow), sizzling into my skin. I had those same things when I was using Winchester White box ammo and Federal ammo. is increasingly confident in the accuracy of its leads. 9,534. By then, other leads may have dried up and the case gone cold. They are running a touch over 1050fps on average. Boom! Could we spend less time on this part of our project without sacrificing safety and accuracy? The unit was tasked with picking over fought-over ground and gathering spent shell casings, presumably so that they could be melted down and reforged, They'd just resize, reprime, charge and seat a projectile. I always leave the woods with far more empty shotgun hulls than squirrels! Ever. In the past, police departments often would not dispatch officers to nonfatal shootings to collect casings, figuring they had better ways to spend their time than getting down on their hands and knees and peering under cars or combing grassy fields. Holding a cocked and loaded weapon while dealing with a freshly spent casing down the front of your shirt can be a test of self control to say the least! Thank you for your patience and understanding. WebIf you shoot 80% of the round mass away but hang on to 20% in casing, that's still an improvement (especially when the ammo systems are usually quite far from the centre of mass) Or to maintain weight and balance somewhat. For example, F-15 and F-16 retain their casings until weapons technicians remove them post-mission. In May, for example, prosecutors in New Jersey convicted Ali Muhammad Brown after the system connected three fatal shootings separated by more than 2,800 miles and several months, two in Seattle and the third in New Jersey. Cleaning brass for reloading is on the top of the list of tedious tasks we love to hate. But do we make it too hard on ourselves? Hah, I had the same dumb question. montana gold bullets seated to 1.140" OAL. The rifle shells get reloaded and shotgun shells usually get tossed when I get home. In the case of the ruthless robber, detectives in different parts of the city did not initially realize they were chasing the same culprit until the system spurred them to compare notes. I bet next time she wears more appropriate clothing for the range! Cauterize the burn with a hot suppressor. I'll show him my license, ID, permission slip from landowner (if applicable), my hunting implement(s), and any game I've taken. But the industry is largely unregulated and unproven. Rimfire casings are hard to recover out of a semi-auto or a lever action especially but I figure they are offset by the other rounds I collect. A buddy of mine blazed through the entire tube magazine of an old stevens .22 auto rifle. Or did you shoot the AR-15 which is semi auto only. (LogOut/ The shotgun shells get tossed. Thanks for all the advice. Wife shooting her Ruger 22/45 had a spent case bounce off of the lane partition at the indoor range, and land between her glasses and cheek. It kinda took me a second to get it off because I didn't realize just how hot it was, and it ended up leaving a pretty nasty burn and blistered up. Oh and on the other hand it seems expensive to reuse or retrieve the amounts of spent rounds. I have found some cases that I had never heard of or at least seen before. In past sales, the scrap metal companies paid a bit less, $59,040 to $67,680, for loads of casings, said Julianne Cho, a spokeswoman for administrative services. US5737863A 1998-04-14 Muzzle loading firearm projectile. from trying the same strategy nationally by building its database with casings fired from newly made guns before they are sold. But a week after the fourth robbery, a 9 millimeter Glock handgun discovered during an unrelated traffic stop was matched to the spent bullets through a federal ballistics database, leading detectives straight to Amin Ackridge. Occam's Razor: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Brass goes for two bucks per pund. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Thanks in advance! Light loads don't apply enough pressure to seal Keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't get infected or anything, but most likely you're good. It hurt like hell and it blistered real quick. When I was in the Army, I remember once going to the range to do some shooting with my company. And yes, treat it the same as any other burn. Then, and this is the best part, he said, Go change your clothes, ride into town, get a beer and a steak, talk to a girl, come home, rinse, repeat: dry in the oven on cookie sheets at 150 degrees for a couple of hours: done!. The recoil from the shot forces the casing to be ejected, and it is usually found on the ground nearby.